Tazzies, Why does everyone like them? Options

[habraxas]

If it bleeds red, it's a Norm.

I've seen very red latex from poppies in India, those two pics are allegedly ov poppies grown for the Afghan opium trade.

Edit: So basically no, you can't say that red latex = Norm. strain.

This post has been edited by habraxas: Sep 7 2009, 05:31 PM

[methboy]

SWIM has never tried PT but he did grow some poppies once a long time ago - he told me he's pretty sure it was around 1989/1990 - they had lilac/light purple- coloured petals with deep, dark purple stripes near the centre - the overall pattern was like a Danish Flag, only the colours were as he said.
He says he remembers scoring their ripe pods one afternoon while in his garden and as he was relaxing there on what was a nice sunny afternoon he got to see the latex changing colour as it dried - it went through a few hues on it's way to being dark red-brown when dry; one shade was a kind of red, which was about an hour or so after the pods were scored, and the latex was just beginning to lose some of it's water content and stayed that way but darkening somewhat until the brown tone started to become more dominant. He said he smoked the latex in a joint and it was very good, although he never had any other point of reference for comparison apart from some commercial O he came by one time in the mid-'80s, which was stronger, but then he thinks it would have been properly prepared, sooner than merely scraped off the pod.
He also says he hasn't tried these himself but a friend he knew who did do a lot of PT who has now changed to MMT said he had been viewing a lot of H&Cs but then bought the pods of some Turkish Whites and reported that they 'nearly buried him'.
It would be very hard to generalise about any strain ( with the exception of Normans, of course) because there must be quite a few other determining factors involved to do with how those flowers were treated prior to brewing or being eaten, e.g. how were they driied? did it rain a lot before they were harvested?

This post has been edited by methboy: Sep 26 2009, 12:07 AM

[poppybgood]

The pics I viewed of the Norms which were scored bled red, as in cherry popsicle red . My friend has scored several dozen McGourm pods, and the latex has been basically the same color. When scored in the morning, it appears somewhat whitish to pale pink, and changes through the day as it dries, at a point resembling coagulated blood as in the photos Habra posted- ending up dark colored, nearly black by evening. Not to say other strains may retain the redness in their latex. The site I wandered upon with the scored Normans was a botanical site which came up on my search for the Tasmanian Gov. agricultural site.

This post has been edited by poppybgood: Oct 5 2009, 06:30 PM

[oblomovka]

Why tazzies?
They are absolutely the best. Swim tried many varieties PWs, Indian Whites, pink Afghan Galania, Turkish violet poppies, tazzies were the best for flower arrangements. This is an opinion and someone else could prefer other strains for arrangement, but there is one more important reason for tazzies.
MY country is great poppy seed exporter, 99% of seed/oil strains haver the same color as tazzies in bloom.
When swim had white, pink and violet poppies in the garden, there was so many questions from the neighbors. Swim was always afraid of a diligent idiot reporting it somewhere. Swim's garden is legal as for as area but he is tired of answering nosy questions about strains he grows. With tazzies there are no more questions, Swim is not the only one in the village who have few rows of poppies, now his garden looks like everybody else's garden.

Btw yesterday I read some article in czech saying that thebaine strains will be soon replaced by noscapine strains. If there is no difference in taste of the seeds I wouldn't be surprised if morphine strains will quickly disappear here. I can't find the article anymore, the chrome browser(unfinished mac version) suddenly stopped working and I can't open history.
There is also the pressure from EU to have different laws for low morphine and high morphine strains, which will surely result in prohibition of high morphine poppies for everyman. Again I am happy that the tazzies look so similar to our seed and oil poppies.


I think that it is the time to found a seed bank.

[poppybgood]

Here's a pic of a freshly scored regular taz compared to a norm. He;s never seen a McGourm bleed the color of the one on the right. He says the McGourms are delightful, being one who is not immune to their beauty. Compared to arrangements he's purchased, even his last marbles that he grew were immensely beautiful, up to 4 times the beauty of the extra large storebought variety. It leads him to believe the Holland variety is the true Taz.

This post has been edited by poppybgood: Oct 14 2009, 07:27 PM

[opie]

Swim said the Australian Tasmanians grown for M are the best he has ever had. He thought he had a safe minimum starting dose for new pods and decided to do even less when he was told about these. He is glad he did because that minimum dose would have been too much. They are scary potent.

[habraxas]

SWIM just grew a whole heap ov Tazzies.

He's been milking them &, while they are all the same flowers growing in the same bed, he has had white latex, yellow latex & pink latex from different plants.

He thinks colour ov latex has more to do w/environmental variables like nutrients, watering, age etc. than with which specific breed a plant is.

Also, seeing as seed from thebaine-enhanced poppies is not sold for culinary purposes (source: http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/poppy/the_in...the_poppy_crop), how would people be getting Norm strain seeds in the first place?

This post has been edited by habraxas: Jan 9 2010, 04:38 PM