Fogle’s Guide To Making (a Sort Of) Laudanum, (A step by step pictorial) Options

[Fogle]

I was wondering the same thing...it seems like A LOT of plant material for that one bottle, unless that bottle is unbelievably potent.

Bueller, Bueller, Bueller?

The answer is in the original post, see step 11.

Step 11,
Mix the 80%, 40% and 20% extracts together. Now we have about 1.5 litres of dark brown liquid, which should contain the best part of 1 litre of 80% alcohol. All we have to do is add some flavour and dilute it in the end to 2 litres of 40% papaver liqueur.

This was only one of four similar bottles.

Extracts can be very potent. Ab made an extract from the residue that collects at the bottom of the buckets we use while harvesting. This extract was extremely potent. A small amount of only 10 ml send me of spinning. And I had to take an anti-histamine to combat the nausea.
The method came down to collecting the milky latex upon a small piece of cloth until it gets soaked and dark brown. Next: boiling that cloth in water and boiling the resulting "tea" down. Yes, the best things are very simple. The boiled down goo was mixed with alcohol to preserve it. Dosing is done by a small pipette. Too bad we can only make this during the harvesting. Laudrum on the other hand can be made any time of the year.

[supkit1122]

Fogle, lemme say that the first thing I wanted to do (after greetings, it ended up being the second oops) was say how amazingly impressive your work to put up that picto-narrative-instructional (hypothetical) guide is. I live in the desert southwest of America, and you've inspired me to, should I be blessed by the powers that be, put up a hot-zone photo narrative of my (california or other legal) poppies this year. Thanks Fogle! I hope you're going to put out some more great work for us to drool over. Beautiful!

-Kit

[Rhenardine]

Some woman I met read this thread a hundred times, and even did a scaled down version of the stuff. The results were quite impressive.Still she wonders ; cannot the first steps be eliminated and the extraction be done with grain alchohol right from the start? She has read that a water extraction leaves behind some unwanted material, but she is no chemist and wonder why the hell not to just start with the achohol in the first place? Everclear is easy to get where she lives, and since she is working with such a small volume that cost is really not a mitigating factor. Eliminating all that cooking down sure simplifies the proceess, as everclear on its own evaporates quite quickly, so reducing to the desired volume is a snap. I keep telling her to stop messing with this stuff, but, hey, you know how women are....

[denm]

I think the water extraction is to leave some of the stuff behind that you don't want that the alcohol will suck out of the material. Plus water is great for extraction of the goodies you do want.

Then after using alcohol to extract from the tea is to get a more pure goodies from all the other stuff that might be in the tea. That is my understanding correct me if I am wrong.

My wooden headed friend probably wont try this.

[Somatic]

You can always make a vaccum and then the water will boil at a very low temperature.

Search on this site, there is a guy who made a vaccum very easily. Lower the internal pressure of a container will lower the pressure needed for liquid water to become gaseous.

When you thought chemistry was just a class, SHAME ON YOU!

Very nice. I still make my tea the old fashioned way. Material, water, mix, strain, drink.
My friend makes laudanum like fogle does. Good read!

This post has been edited by Somatic: Sep 22 2008, 10:17 AM

[Machaon]

wow..super Tutorial....Thanks uncle Thomas r.i.p.

[Lightwish]

One of the best recipee's on here. Bump for a good read

[DopeQueen]

thanks! i enjoyed it. very edutaining.

thanks uncle thomas and fogle. im sure uncle thomas is in heaven cooking up a storm.

[laudanum28]

Fogle,

I can't wait to make this next spring! One question: Won't boiling destroy alkoloids?